Acting defence chief asked for 'playbook' for dealing with misconduct among generals, committee hears

The country's acting top military commander told a parliamentary committee todaythat he's asked for a "playbook" on how to deal with future misconduct complaints against senior leaders of the Armed Forces.

Lt.-Gen. Wayne Eyre also told the four-party House of Commons Committee on the Status of Womenthat the military's high-profilecampaign to stamp out sexual misconduct Operation Honour may have run its course and may needto be replaced.

His remarks came as part of a second parliamentary investigation into the sexual misconduct crisis that is rocking the Armed Forces. Eyre'sboss, Admiral Art McDonald, steppedaside from the role of chief of the defence staffwhen military police launched an investigation intoa decade-old allegationof inappropriate behaviour madeagainst him.

Military police are also investigating allegations of sexualmisconduct against McDonald's predecessor, Gen. Jonathan Vance.

WATCH: Acting defence chiefLt.-Gen. Wayne Eyre asked for 'playbook' on command misconduct

Lt.-Gen. Eyre asked for 'playbook' on dealing with senior leadership misconduct

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Acting Chief of Defence Staff Lt.-Gen. Wayne Eyre told a parliamentary committee he asked for a 'playbook' for dealing with misconduct among senior leaders in the Armed Forces.

"I will say, up front, the current circumstances have shaken us and I believe the Armed Forces is at inflection point, an inflection point we have to seize as an opportunity to come out better," Eyre told the committee.

One of the things Eyre said he asked forafter taking upthe post of actingdefence chief last month was "an aide de memoire, a playbook if you will, to help me deal with any further incidents of senior leader misconduct so we could rapidly deal with those."

Time to retireOperation Honour?

Military law experts in Canada and U.S. have noted that it might be very difficultfor the Canadian military to court-martial senior militaryleaders because the process requires ajuryor panel made up ofofficers with rank equal to or higher thanthat ofthe accused.

As for Operation Honour, Eyresaidhe's heard from many that "maybe this operation has culminated and we need to harvest what has worked from there and learn from what hasn't and go forward with a deliberate change plan."

Eyre'stestimony is important because it gives the first public indication of how the military plans to chart its way out of the crisis and suggeststhere could be more sordid revelations to come.

The Status of Women committee hearingis the second parliamentary investigation launched into sexual misconduct in the militarysince allegations of inappropriate behaviour were made against Vancein early February.

WATCH: Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan defends his handling of of sexual misconduct claims

Defence minister defends handling of misconduct allegations against military commanders

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The Commons Defence Committee is investigating allegations of sexual misconduct against two senior commanders of the Canadian Armed Forces. Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan denied ignoring those accusations, and said the scandal has broken trust in the military.

The Commons defence committee has held a number of public meetings.Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan has appeared twice before that committeeto answer questions about how he handled an informal misconduct complaintinvolving Vancethat was presented tohim by the then-military ombudsman in 2018.

Sajjan appeared before theStatus of Women committee today for the first time.Conservative MP Nelly Shin tried to get the ministerto concede that he made a mistake when he handedoffthe complaint to the Privy Council Office a mistake that ultimately led to the investigation going nowhere.

'You're not owning up to this'

'You're not owning up to the reality. You're not taking action that is showing a shift in the culture. Because as long as there is dodging of responsibility this way,or that way,it's not going to change," Shin said. "If you just keep repeating the same points, I'm just getting the sense you're not owning up to this."

As he did before the defence committee,Sajjaninsisted todayhe handled the situation correctly and tried to shift the blame, saying then-ombudsmanGary Walbournecould have gone to military police or the provost marshal himself to report his concerns.

"When he did come to me, I did give the direct advice to go to those agencies," he said.

That directly contradicts Walbourne's testimony. Hetold MPs earlier this month that he asked the minister for direction and received none, and was surprised when Privy Council Officeofficials began calling him asking for the information about Vance information he said he had promised to keep confidential.

The Liberal government has promised but hasnot yet delivered anindependent review of misconduct in the military and the persistence of what's been described as a toxic culture of masculinity and abuse within the ranks.

"Any external review that looks at our organization, we have to embrace and fully support with the realization we don't have all of the answers, and look at and embrace any recommendations that come out of that," Eyre told the committee.

That wasa notablestatement from Eyre, given past criticism of the military's response to outside pressure. Critics have saidthat the last external review, conducted in 2015 by former supreme court justice Marie Deschamps, was never fully implemented by the Department of National Defence.

Eyre also said he believes there are gaps in the training meant to eliminate misconduct particularly aroundpower dynamics and the use and abuse of authority.

"Training is conducted annually for all members of the Canadian Armed Forces, but in my view annual is not enough and it's got to be a constant drumbeat of reminding our members what right looks like," Eyre said. He pointed to so-called "bystander training" for those who witness misconduct or abuse as something the Armed Forces need to improve.