Pope's meeting with Mtis survivors of residential schools was 'comfortable' but did not include apology

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Pope Francis sat and listenedto three Mtis survivors of church-run residential schoolstell their stories during his private audience at the Vatican with the first of three Indigenous delegations Monday.

"It was a very comfortable meeting," said Mtis National Council president Cassidy Caron.

"Our survivors did anincrediblejob in that meeting of standing up and telling their truths. They were so brave and so courageous,and we wanted to make sure we elevated their voices, and that's exactly what we did today."

The Pope did not issue an apology for the abuses that took place at the Catholic-run, government-funded schools for Indigenous children that existed throughout Canada from the 1870s to 1997.He did, however,speak of "truth, justice and healing," Caron said.

"I take that as a personalcommitment," she said.

The Pope also repeatedhis promise to travel to Canada at some point and meet with survivors, Caron said. Adate has not yet been set for that visit.

The meeting took place in the Pope's private library atthe Apostolic Palace. It's the room where Pope Francis held a private meeting in 2017 with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau who at the time asked the Popefor a residential school apology.

Caron said delegates sat in a semi-circle, with five Canadian Roman Catholic bishops on one side, Mtis delegates on the other and the Pope in the middle.

Shesaid Pope Francis took about 10 minutes to speak to the delegates with the help of a translator. She said she could see sorrow in his face when he heard the stories of residential school survivors and children lost from the institutions.

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Mtis Nation of Albertaelder Angie Crerar, whowas one of the survivors at Monday's meeting, said the encounterhelped easethe pain of her residential school experience.

"Today was one of the most wonderful days I ever had in all my life," Crerar said."I even got a hug."

But the 85-year-oldsaid shewon'thave a sense of closure until more of the children missing from residential schools are found.

"We want to get our kids home," Crerar said. "Then I will celebrate right there."

The meetings arepart of a series of papal audiences in Romethis week to discuss the impact of the Roman Catholic Church's role in operating the majority of residential schools in Canada, and how the church can try to make amends.

Crerar spoke with CBC before the meeting and said childhood memories flooded back to her as she embarked on her journey to Rome.

"Very excited, very humbled, so very grateful," she said ahead of the hour-long meeting.

On the way to Rome, Crerar wore a deep blue blazer and red Mtis sash that represents the blood Mtis shed fighting for their rights.

While she waitedto depart the Montral-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport, Crerar was reminded of what helped her survive nearly a decade of residential school.

"Although they tried to change us, to say that our family was no good my mom and dad taught us kindness, to love, respect," Crerar said.

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Crerarsaid she called onPope Francis to both issuean apology andto helpidentify thechildren who went missing from residential schools.

"These children have the right to have a name and identity," Crerar said.

Demandto access all church and residential school records

Caron, meanwhile,pushedfor unfettered access to church and residential school records.

"Putting names to the children is incredibly important in the healing journey of our people," she said.

During a press conference following the meeting, Canadian Catholic bishops said there are no such documents at the Vatican.But religious entitieshave filesin Rome and Canada; the Oblatesare extendingaccess to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation.

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Caron also called on the church to pay more in reparations to survivors, citing the $30 million Canadian bishops have pledged to raise.

"There should be no question why these funds have not been paid to our people yet," she said.

Crerar said she will never forget the day in 1946 when she not only became a residential school student, but a mother to her two younger sisters aged five and three.

The RCMP took her and her siblings on a plane away from Yellowknife after her mother died of tuberculosis.

"I've got lots of scars," Crerar said. "I wear [them] with pride."

Longtime friend supporting elder's visit to Rome

Crerar spent nine years at the Roman Catholic-run St. Joseph School in Fort Resolution, N.W.T.,from the age of eight to 17.

Audrey Poitras, a longtime friend of Crerar's andpresident of the Alberta Mtis Nation, sat with her arm around her at Gate 60 on Sunday.

Poitras called Crerar last October to tell her she was selected by the Mtis Nation to be part of its primary delegation for the Vatican meetings.

"She [Crerar] said to me, 'I'll go with you,'" Poitras said. "I said, 'But I'm not going,' and she's like, 'Well, I'm going with you.'"

Poitras watched some of this week's meetings from a screen in a nearby room and willattend the pontiff's last audience on Friday. That audience will be publicand will include members of all the Mtis, First Nations and Inuit delegations, along with their family members and supporters.

Back in 2004, Poitras said Crerar pushed her to collect stories about Mtis residential school survivors because she felt it was time for them to be told.

The book Mtis Memories of Residential Schools contains the stories of 24 Mtis residential school survivors, including Crerar.

"I'm really pleased that I'm able to go with her and share with her another leg of her journey," Poitras said.

"She's the person who I look up to."

Support is available for anyone affected by their experience at residential schools or by the latest reports.

A national Indian Residential School Crisis Line has been set up to provide support for former students and those affected. People can access emotional and crisis referral services by calling the 24-hour national crisis line: 1-866-925-4419.