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New Andrew Younger recording surfaces, prompting premier's office to call police

The premiers office has called in police to investigate a 43-second recording that appears to be linked to one released by now independent MLA Andrew Younger.

Newest recording appears to suggest the premier's chief of staff, Kirby McVicar, offered Younger's wife a job

Another secret Andrew Younger recording surfaces

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Recording of conversation with N.S. Premier's chief of staff Kirby McVicar discusses job prospects for Younger's wife

RCMP say theyhave launched an investigation into a43-second recording that appears to suggest Premier StephenMcNeil'schief of staff offered a job to former cabinet minister Andrew Younger's wifewhile he was on a forced leave of absence earlier this year.

The recording was dropped off at the Nova Scotia legislature, addressed to the premier's press secretary, Laurel Munroe. Itwas made public Thursday and the premier's office said it contacted police.

The contents of the recording prompted the Opposition Progressive Conservatives to call for the removal of the premier's chief of staff, Kirby McVicar. The premier, however, is resisting and says he does not believe the offer of work was meant as a bribe.

"Certainly not happy with what I heard in the context of those 40 seconds,"McNeiltold reporters. "But I need to look at it in its totality. I can tell you we've turned the letter and the tape over to theRCMP."

Also on Thursday, the House unanimously passed a motion calling on Younger, the MLA for Dartmouth Eastwho now sits as an independent, to release any and allrecordings in his possession of conversations with McVicar.

Younger revealed last week he'd recorded a conversation with McVicar in February thattook placeat his constituency office. At the time,he was on a forced leave of absence to deal with what McNeilcalled at the timea "personal issue."

That issue involved former Liberal staffer Tara Gault,who was under police investigation for assaulting Younger and was charged.

In the new recording,McVicar can be heard telling Younger that the premier wanted him to come back to the House and be "a soldier."The recording also suggests he offeredYounger's wife, Katia Younger, a job.

"I know you're taking a financial hit, I know that's painful and if there's anything that we can do for your wife on that side then, if there's anything then let us know," McVicar tells Younger.

"Is there a personal-service contract that we can do. Is there something we can do to help?"

McVicar goes on to suggest that Younger "have a chat" with his wife about the option and relay the results of that conversation back to him.

Younger was fired from cabinet and the Liberal caucustwo weeks ago andstripped of his minister's salary of$49,046.51.

Earlier that week he'd refused to testify at Gault's trial, invoking his privilege as an MLA. Younger had been in a personal relationship with the woman.

Younger has accused the premier's officeof treating him and his family unfairly on his path back to Liberal cabinet.

'That's for other people to decide'

Younger told reporters on Thursday that he had no idea the 43-second clip had been sent to government.

He says he had released all recordings he had to CBC News on Nov.12, but found another shorter recording the next day.That recordingwas heard only by his "circle" of people, Younger said.

"I asked this group of people who have been involved since January whether they thought there was merit in releasing it to further prove the fact that of what was going on and how involved Kirby and the premier's office was," he said.

"We all decided,you know,at this point there's nothing that's going change anything.So you just move on."

Younger says he presumes the recording was sent to the legislature byamemberof that group.

As for what's said on the recording, Younger isn't saying much.

"I'll let it speak for itself," he said. "That's for other people to decide."

Premier 'not happy'

On Thursday evening, RCMP spokesman Const. Mark Skinner confirmed police were opening an investigation.

Progressive Conservative Party Leader Jamie Baillieis calling on thepremier toremove McVicar from his position.

"The RCMP are investigating something that includes the premier's chief of staff," Baillietold reporters.

"As long as that's the case, he can't do his job because he can't do his job properly because of the investigation he should step aside."

The premier, however, saidMcVicar will not be goingon leave because McNeil is confident a bribe wasn'toffered to Younger.

McNeil told reporters he doesn't know all the details, but saidMcVicarand Younger had been discussing how Katia Younger was about to lose her job.

"There was a whole part of that conversation that was talking about the fact there would be a job loss in the household, there was a number of other aspects," he said.

"But in fairness to everyone I think it's important that we put that tape on and we have a full airing of what's on that tape."