New podcast on Africville focuses on fight to reclaim land

A new podcast about one of Halifax's former Black communities is looking to bring a differentfocus to the story by featuring advocates who are fighting to have the land returned to its descendants.

Co-hosts Alfred Burgesson and Eddy Carvery III are the minds behind the five-part series, titledAfricville Forever.

The series takes listeners through the history of Africville and some of the figures who have been fighting for its recognition over the last several decades.

"We felt as the new generation, we had to find a way to transition this story into something relevant, something for the [listeners]of today to be able to grasp and get a hold of and maybe learn something from," said Carvery.

Located on the northernmost tip of the Halifax peninsula, Africville wasa predominantly Black community of about 400 residents. It was officially settled by William Brown and William Arnold when they purchased the land in the 1840s, according to data from the city, though some families have said they can trace their lineage back to the area to the 1700s.

Africville was known as a thriving community, with a school, a church and local stores, though homes in the area lacked sewage systems and access to clean water. It was in the late 1940s when it was designated "industrial land," leading to thedevelopment of an infectious disease hospital and a prison in the community. The city dump was also relocatednear Africville in the 1950s.

In the early 1960s, Halifax city council set out to remove housing and other structures in the area for so-called "urban renewal." And from the mid-'60s to the end of the decade, the city purchased the land, moved Africville residents to locations across Halifax and bulldozed existing structures.

In its place today, is a large park and a museum in a replica church.

Most of the podcast series was recorded in a studio, though the co-hosts did take time to go down to Africville to record some audio there. Carvery said he thinks it helps give the audience a richer sense of the place's history.

Over the course of the series, the twospeak to local activists, including Carvery's grandfather, Eddie Carvery, a longtime civil rights activist who protests from a trailer on the Africville land to this day.

The podcast's artwork was created by another resident with connectionsto the community. Halifax-based artistVanessa Thomas, whose grandmother lived in Africville, said shewanted to show the struggle of the community in the past and hope for the future through her art.

Africville's church is the focal point of thepiece.

"I feellike most Black communities in Nova Scotia, the church is the centre of the communities where people go to experience joy and grief," she said.

"Around it [are] ...abstract illustrations of two different sides of the story;one is representingthe fight for justice andthe sadness of the whole thing, and the other side isthe strength of the community."

Thomas added she was honoured to be a part of the project, considering her personal connections to the community, and that the podcast was a great opportunity to spread the story of Africville beyond Nova Scotia and even Canada.

Burgesson echoed the sentiment and said he and Carvery wanted to bring a sense of urgency to the fight for the community.

"People often tend to talk about Africville assomething in the past, and we wanted to have this podcastto talk about it in the past, but also in the present and the future," Burgesson said.

"We realized going into this that yes, we're creating Season 1essentially. A five-part series is definitely not long enough to get the full breadth of what occurred and what is happening. But this is sort of a launching point ...for more dialogue through this brand and podcast of Africville Forever."

Outside the podcast, the pair said there are plans to start a "community visioning" process for Africvillethat will allow former residents and descendants to share their thoughts on what a new Africville could look like.

Inthe meantime, as more people tune in, the hope is that the serieswill encourage listeners to hold Halifaxaccountable to making real change in the lives of the descendants.

"The biggest takeaway that I hope people get is that there's an opportunity in hearing these stories for each individual to be a catalyst for change," Carvery said. "And as long as that's happening, well, then we get to live Africville,forever."

WATCH | CBC Archives footage of bulldozers in Africville:

Africville is destroyed in 1967

57 years ago

Duration 1:55

Bulldozers move in as residents are shipped out. Aired on Sept. 15, 1967 on Gazette.

Burgessonsaid he felt the story of Africville and its advocates spoke to a larger tale about the racism Black people in Canada continue to face.

"African Nova Scotians and Black people from Africville not having access to this land as their own has kept back generations of African Nova Scotians," Burgesson said.

"I hope people realize that stories like this have a lot to do with the situation we're in today in societyand something can still be done. This is not a story that is in the past or historythis is something that we can still do something about today.

"And so I hope listeners believe that, too."

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