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Masonic Temple owners haunted by heritage holdups

'The point is that if we want to save our heritage we've got to make it easier for people.'

City of St. John's says heritage regulations apply only to building exterior, building codes apply inside

Kathie Hicks says heritage rules are hurting the building's true potential, but the City of St. John's says safety regulations are of the utmost importance. (Sherry Vivian/CBC)

The Masonic Temple in downtown St. John's has long been shrouded in mystery and the site of supposed eerie encounters, but the building's owners have been haunted by what they say is red tape that's preventing the facility to flourish.
We love this building, we love the beauty of it. But we're just a small theatre company."- Kathie Hicks, Spirit of Newfoundland

Kathie Hicks and Peter Halley bought the historic landmark from its original owners, the Freemasons, in 2008 to house their local theatre company,Spirit of Newfoundland.

They had originally intended to put all three storeys of the temple to use right away.

But currently,the third floor is a mix of storage and construction, deemed off-limits by the city. This, despite the fact that Hicks and Halley say the masons were allowed to meet there the day before Spirit took over.

"As soon as we bought it, the rules changed. All the rules changed," said Hicks.

'Made it impossible'

The pair says the city began making demands: widen the hallways, add eight women's washrooms, create three exits all unanticipated and costly changes.

"[They] made it impossible for us to go ahead. We had architectural drawings and all that stuff and we had to stop," Hicks added.

The co-owners have had to expose walls and tear up flooring on the third storey of the Masonic Temple. (Megan Kwan/CBC)
Much of the frustration comes from the fact that the City of St. John's is applying its modern rules to antique structures.

"It doesn't relax its rules at all, which makes it practically impossible to preserve our heritage," Hicks said.

"Whata shame having to cover over the dungeon, what a shame having to cut up that room."

Hicks said the city required them to expose a number of walls and rip up flooring and raised platforms, concerned about secret passages and hideouts.

Hicks says the intricate Masonic pavement tile, which aspiring Freemasons used to walk across to complete initiations, needs to remain as is. (Megan Kwan/CBC)

But when officials wanted to go through the Masonic pavement tile a significant part of the Masonic ritual to see under it, the pair refused. They found their own way under the floor to keep the symbol intact while complying with council's mandates.

"To them it's like, 'Why are you bothering to save this?'" said Hicks. "I would say the city needs some sensitivity training on heritage."

City responds

The City of St. John's, however, says there are safety reasons behind regulations that apply to the building.

The upper floor can only be used for storage "due to lack of safe exiting and required fire ratings," according to a statement provided by a city spokesperson in response to questions emailed by CBC.

"All interior renovations must comply with building and life safety codes," the response reads.

The City of St. John's says building and life safety codes dictate the interior of a building, not heritage regulations. (Rob Antle/CBC)

The city has "provided alternate solutions in lieu of a sprinkler system," but those weren't accepted and no additional progress has come since 2011, when a meeting between the two sides was held.

The spokesperson reiterated that municipal heritage regulations apply only to the exterior of buildings, not the inside.

Heritage carries hefty costs

With all of the city's demands factored in, Spirit is anticipating a minimum of $300,000 in interior work alone.

Hicks said both the municipal andfederal government aren't muchhelp when it comes to funding; she says the maximum they can get from the city is a $5,000 annual grant, and federally they're out of luck because Spirt of Newfoundland is a for-profit company.

The weather hasn't been kind to the Masonic Temple's exterior. (Sherry Vivian/CBC)

More luck with the province

At the provincial level, however, Hicks and Halley have had some successwith the Crown agency dedicated to preserving the Newfoundland and Labradorheritage, which grants up to three instalments of $50,000 for registered heritage landmarks like the Masonic Temple, although that would be for a restoration projected to cost at least $750,000.

But the group also requires that the Masonic Temple be thoroughly assessed by those who specialize in heritage structures, andwhen getting quotes from heritage experts for the assessment, Hicks said Canadian companies were asking "crazy" prices.

The Spirit of Newfoundland bought the Masonic Temple from the Masons in 2008. (Submitted by Katherine Hicks)

"It's ridiculous, but they wear it as a badge of honour 'cause they're getting all the government work and they're able to charge huge dollars," said Hicks.

So the group outsourced to an Irish company, the Architectural Conservation Professionals the same team that worked on the Basilica of St. John the Baptist across the way.

The cost of the ACP quote was a third of the one Hicks had received from workers in Moncton, travel expenses from Ireland included.

"The point is that if we want to save our heritage we've got to make it easier for people," said Hicks.

"We happen to love heritage. We love this building, we love the beauty of it. But we're just a small theatre company."