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'This will get nasty': Protests erupt, Vickers threatens to topple government over health reforms

New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative minority government unveiled major, long-delayed health-care reforms that immediately triggered talk of an early provincial election.

'This will get nasty' pledges Sussex protester predicting fight to reverse government decision

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers told reporters at the New Brunswick Legislature he will try to bring down the provincial government over the health-care reforms. (CBC)

New Brunswick's Progressive Conservative minority government unveiled major, long-delayed health-care reforms that immediately triggered talk of an early provincial election.

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers said his party would try to defeat the government in the legislature over a plan to close six hospital emergency departments between midnight and 8 a.m.

Two PC MLAs refused to endorse the reforms, which were announced Tuesday morning by Health Minister Ted Flemming and the CEOs of the two regional health authorities.

Deputy Premier Robert Gauvin told Radio-Canada that "as an Acadian from northern New Brunswick, I can't support what has been announced," saying he was born in one of the affected hospitals, in Caraquet, and "better ideas must be found."

Progressive Conservative MLA Bruce Northrup was confronted by protesters outside the Sussex Health Centre on Tuesday. The government MLA said he was not consulted on the plan. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

Meanwhile, Sussex-Fundy-St. Martins MLA Bruce Northrup told an angry crowd at the Sussex Health Centre that he would speak to Horizon Health officials and local staff "and then I'll make a decision which way I'll be going on Thursday."

The Tory MLA, first elected in 2006, told people the reforms have been "a communication nightmare" and he had not been consulted on the plan, which includes the hospital in his riding.

'A government has to govern'

At a news conference in Fredericton, Flemming said there was no need for consultations because many of the ideas have been proposed by the health authorities for years, only to be rejected by risk-averse politicians.

"A government has to govern," he said. "There's been enough studies, enough consultations, enough reviews, enough, enough, enough. We know what the problem is. I believe the health-care professionals should be deciding this."

The two health authority CEOs confirmed that.

"We have been asking for these changes for many, many years and we were never given authority to move forward," said Karen McGrath of Horizon Health.

Horizon Health Network CEO Karen McGrath, Health Minister Ted Flemming and Vitalit Health Network CEO Gilles Lanteigne announce cuts to ER operating hours at six hospitals in New Brunswick. (Jacques Poitras/CBC)

Gilles Lanteigne, the CEO of Vitalit, said a plan approved by his board in 2015 along these lines has been gathering dust at the Health Department ever since.

"We're very happy that we're moving in the direction that is contained in these plans," he said.

'This will get nasty'

But the public reaction was far different, with rallies and online petitions popping up Monday and Tuesday in several of the communities affected.

"It is not going to happen, Bruce," one man in the Sussex crowd told Northrup. "This will get nasty. We will go to Fredericton and make sure this is not done."

The six hospitals affected are the Sussex Health Centre, the Sackville Memorial Hospital, Hotel-Dieu of St. Joseph in Perth-Andover, Stella-Maris-de-Kent Hospital in Sainte-Anne-de-Kent, Enfant-Jsus Hospital in Caraquet and the Grand Falls General Hospital.

People picket outside a hospital in Sussex, N.B.
Protests were held outside some of the affected hospitals, including the Sussex Health Centre, above. (Graham Thompson/CBC)

McGrath and Lanteigne said the changes were needed because each of those hospitals has seen an average of only five emergency department visits per night, most of them not actual emergencies.

By closing those departments from midnight to 8 a.m., "the transfer of those hours should mean in all these facilities that these physicians are more available to see patients because they're not working overnight anymore," McGrath said.

A new nurse practitioner will be located in each of the six communities to further reduce wait lists.

Along with other nurse practitioner positions recently announced, the plan should spawn up to 118,000 additional doctor or nurse practitioner visits, the CEOs said, and reduce the provincial waiting list by more than half.

More than overnight service

But the reforms go beyond emergency departments to try to address the large number of seniors waiting for months in hospitals for alternative care arrangements such as nursing home spaces.

Those seniors don't require the acute-level care provided in hospitals, so the 120 acute-care beds in the six hospitals will be reclassified as chronic care beds requiring a less intense, and less costly, level of care.

Seniors in that category in larger hospitals will be moved to the smaller hospitals so that the larger hospitals are freed up to meet the demand for acute care, McGrath said.

The plan is to offer more services such as dining halls, recreation and social and emotional support to the seniors in those smallerfacilities.

Flemming announced the health-care changes during a press conference Tuesday morning. (CBC)

The health authorities will also increase addiction and mental health services in the six communities where ERs will close at night.

Flemming described the changes as putting the right people in the right places to address modern health-care needs, including an aging population, while also responding to a shortage of trained professionals that has been getting worse.

"It should come as a surprise to no one in this province that our health-care system is in a crisis," he said. "The status quo is simply not an option, because the status quo leads to deterioration."

The minister said 23 service interruptions within the system in 2019 "were not isolated, one-off, 'oh gee' events. We just do not have enough people to maintain the level of services."

He said even if the decision caused some "political flak we're going to do it anyway."

Liberal Leader Kevin Vickers says, if it came to it, he would ask House Speaker Daniel Guitard to step down and vote with the party to defeat PC government. (CBC)

The flak was not long in coming, with Vickers telling reporters his Liberals "will bring down this government at our first opportunity to ensure the safety and health and welfare of our New Brunswick citizens."

A Liberal government would then restore the services being reduced, he added, though he didn't say how he would address the human-resources crunch facing the health-care system.

The political math

The Liberals don't have the numbers to defeat the PC government on their own. They have 19 seats in the legislature, not including Speaker Daniel Guitard, who only votes to break ties. The PCs have 21 seats and the Greens and People's Alliance each have three.

There are two vacant seats, Saint Croix and Shediac Bay-Dieppe, where Premier Blaine Higgs must call byelections.

Vickers said if it's needed to defeat the PCs, he'll ask Guitard to step down as speaker so he can vote with the party.

Even then, it would take the Liberals gaining the Saint Croix seat in a byelection and at least one other party voting with them to defeat the government.

People's Alliance Leader Kris Austin wouldn't say whether his party would prop up the PC government against a possible vote to bring it down. (CBC)

Alliance Leader Kris Austin said Tuesday he was concerned about the ER reductions but saw merit in other aspects of the plan. He wouldn't commit to propping up the PCs if the Liberals introduce a non-confidence motion.

Green Leader David Coon said some elements of the plan are needed, but the ER closures are a non-starter. But he wouldn't commit to voting with the Liberals to defeat the government.

He said his party's priority is to persuade the government to change its mind.

"This isn't something to make political hay out of," he said. "This is something to find solutions for."

The hours being implemented in the six hospitals are already in effect at St. Joseph's Hospital in Saint John and at the hospital in Oromocto.