How missing info on vacant buildings is risking the lives of Montreal firefighters

The Montreal fire department says it's troubled to learn that information firefighters rely on to keep safe may not be accurate nor up to date.

CBC Montreal Investigates has revealed that there are many vacant and possibly dangerous buildings the boroughs know about that are not on the fire department's master list and the City of Montrealmay be to blame.

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"For us, this is worrisome," said DenisDoucet, assistant director of the Montreal fire department, in an interview withCBC'sFrench-language service, Radio-Canada.

"It raised questions for us, and I can guarantee that we are taking action to check whether these discrepancies really exist.

"If they are real, we will take measures immediately to try and correct the situation."

Dispatcher's list incomplete

When Montreal firefighters race out to respond to a fire call, their dispatcher warns them if the building they're heading tois vacant or poses a particular danger.

Thatlist of problem buildings maintained by thefire department includes notes on any hazards that could endanger firefighters, such as weak walls, missing balconies or holes in the roof.

Many boroughs also have their own list of vacant buildings.

But when CBC obtainedthe fire department's master list through an access to information request and compared the lists, we found many buildings the boroughs have documented are noton the fire department's list.

That suggests a serious and, for firefighters, potentially deadly communication breakdown.

'Flabbergasted'

"I have to admit, I am flabbergasted," said the vice-president of Montreal's firefightersunion, Chris Ross.

Ross always assumed that boroughs notified the fire department as soon as they'd added a vacant building to their list,so the fire department's own datacould be updated.

"It's one thing that it's vacant, and no one has seen it yet," Ross said. "Then, you know, you can't really blame the employer, it's just something that wasn't noticed."

"But if the actual employer knows, then the left hand isn't telling what the right hand knows."

Tour of unlisted buildings confirms fears

CBC Montreal Investigates showed Ross several buildings found on borough lists that do not appear on the fire department's April 2016 list of vacant buildings.

One of the buildings is an unused autobody garage in the PlateauMont-Royal borough, on Marie-Anne Street. It's on thatborough's most recent list of vacant buildings.

The windows and doors are covered with graffiti. Through a broken window, Ross was able to peekinside.

The floor appearto be covered in piles ofplasterthat havefallen from the ceiling.

At least half a dozen cars are still inside, as well as tires and barrels of what appearsto be oil.

"Definitely a high fuel load, if the cars have gas in the tanks," said Ross.

All the debris would make it hard for firefighters to move around insideif the garagewas full of smoke, he said.

"If it's on a borough list, then there's no reason why it shouldn't have been sent over to the fire department so we could take a look at it and, at the very least, inventory it," said Ross, who pointed out the holes in the ceiling could classify the buildingas dangerous.

Campfire on roof

Across the street from the garage is another building that isn't on the fire department's list, either.

Scrawled with graffiti and long boarded up, the two-storey building's power and gas appear to be shut off. Ross also found evidence of a squatters' campfire on the roof that had burned through into the ceiling.

"There is no doubt this meets the vacant criteria for the firefighter department," said Ross.

The other buildings CBCshowed Ross includethe former Armstrong carpet factory off the DcarieExpressway and a dilapidated duplex in Cte-des-Neiges.

In each case, Ross felt the fire department should have been toldabout the state of the buildings.

"We've had unfortunate incidents in Montreal where firefighters have been killed in vacant buildings because when we arrived, we didn't know it was vacant," said Ross.

Death of firefighter Ren Mass

In December 1990, a firefighter died after he was trapped in a burning, vacant building on St. Hubert Street.

Its unstable roof and walls collapsed on top of Lt.Ren Mass.

After Mass'sdeath, major changes were made. Ross saidthe CSST, the province's workplace health and safety board, ordered the fire department tokeep an inventory of vacant and dangerous buildings.

Every six months, firefighters are sent to check those buildingsand note any changes. Any new buildings that are discovered throughout the year are immediately inspected and added to the fire department's list.

Once inspected, the firefighters in that districtvisit the buildings to becomefamiliar with the risks they pose.

No working smoke, fire alarms

Vacant buildings are also more dangerous because the electricity hasusually been cut, meaning there are no working fire alarms or smoke detectors.

"So the fire is going to get a lot bigger before anybody notices it," said Ross.

"It affects our response, as well," said Ross. "If you have a fire in a confirmed vacant building, we send more trucks on the first alarm."

No consistent borough policy

CBC contacted all Montrealboroughs and found there is noconsistent policy about how information is shared between eachboroughand the fire department.

Of those that responded to our inquiry:

• Some told us it was the fire department whichnotified them of vacant buildings.
• The borough of MercierHochelagaMaisonneuveclaimsitnotifiesthe fire department as soon as it learns of a vacant or dangerous building.
• RosemontLa Petite-Patrie said it doesn't get involved in the process at allmeaning it shares no list with Montreal's fire department.

Still other boroughssaid a list issent to the fire chief responsible for each district in the borough once a month or once a year.

Ross says that's unacceptable.

"It puts our members at risk," said Ross. "That would mean during that month or during that year, the employer knows the building is vacant, and they aren't transmitting the information to the fire department."

"It sort of defeats the whole purpose."

A spokeswoman for Anie Samson, who chairsMontreal's public security commission, said any questions about the reliability of the fire list should be directed to the fire department.

Fire department blames sheer volume of buildings

The fire department initially refused an on-camera interview.

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However, after an initialversion of this story was published early Tuesday, the department's assistant director spoke to Radio-Canada.

Denis Doucet said it's hard for the fire list to be completely up to date, due to the sheer volume of buildings in Montreal.

He said while he's not diminishing the importance of the fire list, firefighters are now trained to do quick assessments of buildings and properly analyze the structure before they enter a burning building.

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