Former Winnipeg mayor Susan Thompson still hoping to see 2nd woman in the job, but prof says obstacles remain

Susan Thompson did not become Winnipeg's first female mayor because she wanted to break the glass ceiling at city hall which is a good thing, because 30 years later, that still hasn't happened.

"Everyone talked about how I broke the glass ceiling," recalls Thompson, who was mayor from 1992 to 1998. "Well, I obviously didn't. I think I put a little crack in it."

Three decadesago this month, Thompson was sworn into office as the 40th mayor of Winnipeg, and the first woman elected to the job.

"It was a callingI had a calling," she says. "It was my destiny."

She's disappointedthat no other woman has pulled it off since. And on acool November afternoon, that's what she wants to talk about.

"There's a saying: change happens slowly, or by revolution," Thompson says. "Well, I might be in the mood for a revolution. There needs to be another seismic shift."

Thompson is sitting in her Winnipeg apartment, on electric pink furniture (inspired, she says, by a magazine article that featuredthe stylings of Lee Radziwill, Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis's sister).

A painted pink metal toolbox sits next to her, holding stickers with one-word messages that inform her rules for life: Faith. Hope. Perseverance. Destiny. (They're also the themes of the second book that she's writing about her life.)

Then there's the small framed sign, with a more revealing insight: "First they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."

That resonates with Thompson. From the get-go, her political career has been met with varying levels of ugly.

There was the time a prominent radio personality asked her who would be her date for her mayoral engagements.

"Do you think he asked that question to [former Winnipeg mayor]Bill Norrie?" she says. "I told him I'd see if Tom Selleck was free."

There was the time she was sworn into office. As per tradition, she should have been escorted into council by a marching pipe band. But they refused to do it, she says. So sherecruiteda lone piper.

There was the failed meet-and-greetwith council members. She invited them all to lunch on her own dime, she adds to articulate their goals.Two refused. "They said it was a bribe," she says.

She was also told councillors hadasecretpact.

"They were going to make my life so miserablethat they were going to get me to quitbefore the end of my first term."

She didn't. And three years later, she did it all again, winning a second term in 1995 andcompleting her reign in 1998.

'Sad reality' that barriersremain: prof

No other woman has followed suit at least, not in Winnipeg.

Elsewhere in the province, there has beensome improvement. October's civic elections saw 22 women electedas heads of council acrossthe province. It's a record high but still an abysmal low, says Thompson.

Too many women, she thinks, are disproportionately saddled with too many of the traditional family responsibilities.

Kelly Saunders, an associate professor of political studies and gender and women's studies at Brandon University, agrees.

"Susan is absolutely right," she says."The sad reality is that here we are years later, and these issues are still at play. The things that were barriers thenstill remain barriers to this day."

I don't blame women who say, 'Why would I expose myself to that?'- Kelly Saunders, Brandon University associate professor

There's a new barrier in town, too: the combined rise of social media interaction and the fall of civility.

"A lot of the women don't want to expose their families and their children to the barrage of criticism on social media," says Thompson.

And with good reason, says Saunders.

Trolls target anyone in office, but women are particularly susceptible to misogynistic attacks, she says. Sometimes threatening. Sometimes in-person. (Think Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland, who was targeted in August.)

Former Alberta premier Rachel Notley"is still the record holder in the country for the number of threats she received while in office," Saunders said.

"I don't blame women who say, 'Why would I expose myself to that?'"

'A long way to go': councillor

Devi Sharma, now a Winnipeg city councillor, met Thompson in 1995, when Sharma was an assistant at city hall. Immediately, she was "truly inspired" by the mayor, she says.

"She paved the way for women like me."

Now a veteran politician herself (she's been the councillor for Old Kildonan since 2010), Sharma says she better understands the "old boys' club"barriers that Thompson had to survive.

"We have a long way to go," Sharma says. "We need more diverse women voices around the decision-making table."

Saunders concurs.

"Women need access to the networks, and the money to open the doors and level the playing field," she says. "You need the movers and shakers to make space for women."

Case in point: Saunders saysshe's encouraged by seeing newly elected Winnipeg Mayor Scott Gillingham appoint a female chief of staff, Destiny Watt.

Thompson says she's been trying that for years,activelyurging Winnipeg women to run for office. So far, she's struck out. But she's not done trying.

WATCH| An interview with Susan Thompson:

An interview with former Winnipeg mayor Susan Thompson

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Duration 5:19

Winnipeg's first female mayor, Susan Thompson, shares stories of her experience and why she thinks, 30 years later, Winnipeg still hasn't elected another woman as mayor.

To mark the 30th anniversary of her election to office, friends and supporters are establishing a University of Winnipeg scholarship fund in her name.

"It's for women in leadership to be able to attend university," Thompson says. "Be it a not-for-profit, be it political, I don't care. If you feel you're a woman in leadership, we're going to help you get your education."

So far, they've raised more than $300,000 towardthe fund.

In the meantime, Thompson has some free advice for any woman who dares to dream about political leadership:Trust your gut. Ignore the naysayers.

"I didn't belong to any political party, I didn't have any experience, but I knew it was meant to be. And I never doubted it," she says.

"My point is, especially to women, if you do get that calling, don't ignore it."