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'Within 10 days, I had $3,000.' These women find saving with friends pays off

"We're very communal society and your societal reputation is everything," said Hagir Sail, one of many women involved in a saving and credit practice that goes back generations. They say it's especially useful during uncertain times.

It might sound like a pyramid scheme, but it's small and everyone gets the same payout

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Hagir Sail plays with her 19-month-old son Sufyan Ahmed in the kitchen of her northeast Calgary home. (Elise Stolte/CBC)
How communities in Calgary have gathered to help each other financially.

When Hagir Sail found herself facing nearly$2,000 in unpaid traffic fines, she knew exactly how to find the money.

She called six friends, each of them pledged to put $500 a month into a collective savings pot, and as the organizer, she then took the first of six monthlypayouts.

It's an example of a saving and credit system that's become common in some cultural communities.

"It's one of these incredible things that solvesa problem very quickly for a lot of people," said Sail, who is part of Calgary's Sudanese-Canadian community.

"Within 10 days, I had $3,000."

This is a collective approach to saving, an alternative to credit cards and payday lenders. A first blush, it might sound like a pyramid scheme. But it's different because it's small, everyone in the circle is known, and everyone is getting the same payout.

Itcan be especially helpful in uncertain times, and goes under many names uqubinTigrinya,ayuuto in Somali and chama in Swahili.

Sail goes with the Arabic, thanduk.

"SometimesI'm just volunteered an auntie will be like, by the way, I put you into this because I know you have the money," Sail said.

While explaining theinformal lending system, she adds cinnamon and cardamon to the tea,and plays with her 18-month-old son in the living room. She says there will be 10 to 15 of these saving circles going on at any given time, and that's just withthe friends and community members she knows.

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Hagir Sail used a thanduk, or collective saving and credit system, to raise the money she needed to pay off fines on her car when she renewed the registration. She had been lending the vehicle to her siblings. (Elise Stolte/CBC)

They make an agreement, andthe collective nature of their community ensures that agreement is honoured.

"We're a very communal society and your societal reputation is everything," said Sail. "If you break the saving circle you take money and you don't come back you're never joining a saving circle again, and then trust in the community is zero.

"And we're so lonely here because wedon't have family. Your only family is the community members. So if youbreak that trust, you don't have anybody."

This way of saving came up frequently during CBC Calgary's community project with local East African communities, called Sharing Knowledge.

Studying at Sail's kitchen table, her younger sister Sara said she expects to get in on the tradition when she's a little older. She said she was surprised one day to find out from a Haitian-Canadian friend that this is common in her culture, too.

Some people use the practice like Sail does, as aspecific agreement with a beginning and end. But other times, people join these circles and stay in them for years, getting multiple payoutsand building a social network.

A woman in her 20s sits in front of a laptop at a kitchen table with headphones on.
Sara Sail studies for an exam at her sister's kitchen table. She's a third-year marketing student minoring in entrepreneurship and social innovation. (Elise Stolte/CBC)

Barlin Mohamedhas been saving collectively with the same group of women since 1998.She's originally from Somalia, and there are women from Ethiopia in her group as well.

She invited CBC to join them as they gathered for apotluck dinner, to play Ethiopian music videos on YouTube and catch up on each other's lives. The group started when they were new refugees, trying to save enough to send support back home.

"When I started, weput in $100. Whatever we can afford," said Ubah Doli, one of Mohamed's friends. "There were five of us and themoney, it's not big. But when you don't have much, it's big. Wesent to back home because that timein my country there was war going on. Your family needs you."

As the women found better jobs and settled here, they increased the amount they saved each month. Soon, they were paying for cars, furniture or fridges,and eventually helping their children pay off student loans.

Other women joined over time, but they're careful who they let in, they say.

Three women wearing colourful dresses sit together on a couch.
Left to right, Fatouma Ali, Asha Mohamed and Ubah Doli are among half a dozen women who have been participating in a collective savings project for three decades. (Elise Stolte/CBC)

"There area fewbad apples, bad people. When they come,theytake the money and you don't see them again. That happens once in a blue moon," said Doli.

"With this group, if there is new person and we'renot sure,we don't give them the first (payout).They get the last," said Fatouma Ali, another woman in the group. "We will tell them the rule is the rule."

They are my family. We are a family and friends for many years.- Barlin Mohamed

Mohamed saidshe used it to save for a down payment on her house. That was partly because she watched the other women buy houses and followed their example, and also because this offered a systematic way to save. Each time it was her turn to get the payout, she set it aside for the down payment.

It took her six years.

But as the women laugh and share easily in the living room around us, I ask Mohamed: What's more important, the ability to save or the friendship that comes because of this?

"Actually, the friendship," Mohamed said. "Because they are my family. We are a family and friends for many years. We see each other through the good time and the bad time."


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CBC Calgary has been working with local East African community members on a project to share knowledge between the media and community members.Read more about this partnership,and check out other reporting sparked by these conversations.