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Robert Pickton's Quebec move likely for safety: ex-prison judge

Darryl Plecas, a former prison judge at Kent who went on to be Speaker of theB.C. Legislature, says he thinks he knows why serial killer Robert Pickton was transferred to a Quebec prison his safety was likely at risk at Kent Institution in B.C.

Serial killer left in critical condition after Sunday assault in maximum-security prison in Quebec

A white man wearing a speaker's uniform speaks to reporters.
A former prison judge who saw Robert Pickton at British Columbia's Kent maximum security prison says the serial killer's personal security was the likely reason he was transferred to maximum security Port-Cartier Institution, northeast of Quebec City. Darryl Plecas, then-Speaker of the B.C. Legislature, is seen here in 2019. (Chad Hipolito/The Canadian Press)

When serial killer Robert Pickton was transferred from British Columbia's Kent Institution to a maximum security prison in Quebec about six years ago, correctional authorities gave no public explanation or confirmation at the time, citing privacy.

But Darryl Plecas, a former prison judge at Kent who went on to be Speaker of theB.C. Legislature, says he thinks he knows why Pickton's safety was likely at risk at Kent.

Pickton is now in a Quebec City hospital with what police there called life-threatening injuries. Correctional Service Canada said Pickton, who was being held at the Port-Cartier Institution, about 480 kilometres northeast of Quebec City, was the victim of a "major assault" that did not involve guards on Sunday.

Plecas, a criminologist who was a prison judge at Kent from 2004 to 2013, called Pickton's transfer a "lateral move."

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Robert Pickton is seen when he was on trial in 2006. Correctional Service Canada said the convicted serial killer was the victim of a "major assault" at the Port-Cartier Institution in Quebec on Sunday. (CBC)

"Why would someone be moved out ofB.C.? My guess would be he got moved for security reasons," said Plecas.

He said Wednesday that notorious inmates like Picktonwho was convicted of six counts of second-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison in 2007 after being charged with the murders of 26 women are generally put in protective and segregated custody for their own protection, not to protect others.

This was particularly likely for Pickton, said Plecas, who was familiar with the killer from his time at Kent.

He said he could not comment on whether he had dealt with Pickton as a prison judge, but Pickton's physical condition meant his personal security would have been at risk.

Plecas described Pickton as "short, frail...five feet nothing" and unlikely to pose a threat in a prison environment.

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Robert William Pickton is shown in this undated file television image in his Port Coquitlam, B.C. home. He is now in a Quebec City hospital with what police called life-threatening injuries. (Global TV/Reuters)

"Have you ever seen Willie Pickton? ... A hundred pounds kind of thing, like soaking wet. He is not a big guy."

Plecas said protective custody was designed to keep inmates like Pickton away from threats posed by the general prison population.

But there were still risks for certain inmates who "would be seen as unwelcome even in a protective custody unit," Plecas said.

Questions remainabout attack, sayscorrections reform expert

There are many unanswered questions about the attack and the conditions at Port-Cartier at the time, said Howard Sapers, a corrections reform expert who served as the correctional investigator of Canada and was previously a Liberal member in Alberta's legislature.

"It both gets my attention and disturbs me when I hear about a significant act of violence inside a federal penitentiary," Sapers said. "My first thoughts about this particular report were, how did it happen and why did it happen?"

As correctional investigator of Canada from 2004 to 2016, Sapers said the ombudsperson-like office had wide discretion to investigate use-of-force issues and incidents resulting in injuries or death inside federal institutions.

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Howard Sapers currently heads an advisory panel looking at the removal of solitary confinement in prisons. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

"There's lots of barriers and gates and sliding doors with locks," he said. "There's lots of surveillance, lots of cameras. The problem is that when violence does happen in penitentiaries, it's often very sudden."

It is difficult to know if the Pickton assault was spontaneous, random or targeted, said Sapers, adding that issues relating to personalities, activities, relations with guards and working conditions can contribute to tensions within an institution.

"The old clich is, the hardest thing about doing time is doing time," he said.

Federal Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said Tuesday that the correctional service would review the circumstances of the attack on Pickton.

LeBlanc added that he understood Quebec police "are also seized with this matter."

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Minister of Public Safety Dominic LeBlanc has said an investigation is ongoing to shed light on the circumstances of the attack on Pickton. (Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

He said that "interactions between inmates" are one of the most difficult things to manage in maximum security prisons, and the investigation into the Pickton attack would examine that "kind of circumstance."

"Certain hallways have certain inmates that shouldn't come into contact with others," LeBlanc said.

Sapers is currently the chair of a federal advisory committee, the Structured Intervention Unit Implementation Advisory Panel, that reports to LeBlanc about the removal of administrative segregation, solitary confinement in prisons.

He said he's hopeful the review of the attack on Pickton will include "lessons learned," which will be implemented.

"Our institutions are under duress right now," he said. "There are staffing issues. There are access to programs issues. There are capacity issues in terms of prison employment and other meaningful activities being offered in these places of custody."

Plecas said his duties as a federal prison judge involved administering the Corrections and Conditional Release Act.

He said he would hear cases of inmates facing weapons, drugs, smuggling and attempted-escape charges.

Federal prison judges did not deal with serious assault cases, attempted murders and murders, Plecas said.